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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Rev. Richie and Rev. Keats exercise their rights

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Hello friends and guests,

Aloha. As told to me: Two of our relatively new members here on the Big Island used our Ministry logo id cards effectively a few weeks ago at the State Building in Hilo.

Rev. Richie and Rev. Keats were going to the Hawaii State Department of Health office to finalize their application for a license to perform marriages. At the entry to the State Building they were unexpectedly searched and metal-detected revealing a sacrament pipe and a personal amount of Cannabis sacrament. Security called the local police who asked them if they had "medical marijuana". They said, 'no, we are THC Ministers of Cannabis sacrament and here are our id cards'. After a brief examination of the circumstances, the evidence and the individuals, the officer asked our good reverends if they would kindly remove the sacramental items from the premises and return without them. Bingo! Case closed.

Simple as that. These gentlemen are now even more inspired to be members and Practitioners of our Ministry and I promised them that I would gladly tell their story here in print for all to see.

* Hi guys. Here's your testimonial. Thanks for sharing your Ministry experience and personal truth with us. If there are any changes to make for accuracy please inform me and I'll update this accordingly. Mahalo.

All the very best to one and all,



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: I love when this happens!

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Hello there,

Aloha. I was out shopping tonight and came across a friend of mine who I've not seen in a few years. She stopped to say hi and also to say that she had a personal, success testimony about the ministry to tell me.

My friend told me that she came home a few weeks ago to find police and her landlady in her greenhouse standing around her three female Cannabis plants. At first, the tone of the landlady was threatening and accusatory to her. The police asked if she had "medical marijuana" and she honestly told them, "no". Then she remembered to pull her THC Ministry id card out of her wallet and show it to them.

It worked! The police said "that's good enough for us" and let her go with a smile. Hallelujah! Simple as that.

All the very best to you,








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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:52 pm    Post subject: I just got a phone call from the police.

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Hello everyone,

Aloha. How's it going?

I just received a phone call from an officer in the King County Police Department in Seattle. He had arrested two young men 'smoking marijuana in public' and when one of them showed their THC Ministry id card. The officer did the right thing and called me immediately for verification.

Apparently one of our members who has a signature id card passed sacrament while inside of a parked car to another friend who did not have an id card. Neighbors called the police who investigated and found a huge cloud of cannabis smoke coming from the car window.

I asked the officer if the THC Ministry member was being respectful and he said, yes. Although the officer was familiar with medical marijuana, our Constitutional defense to prosecution was new to him. New, and powerful. It worked right on-the-spot, "under arrest conditions". I love it when that happens!

Alls well that ends well, yes? Officer was convinced by my talk with him that the sincerity of the member + our legitimacy = freedom. We won! Both men walked.

God, that's GREAT!

Love, Roger




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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Successes 47, 48 and 49

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Hello everyone,

Aloha. How's it going for you?

I just had a visit from a local Hawai'i island THC Ministry practitioner and he brought us three gifts; three stories of his success with THC Ministry documents.

I often refer to our confrontations with law enforcement in a numbered way to help build the accurate record for us all to learn from. We've had terrific results in incidents 1 - 45. It is an amazing run! Thanks to all of you who stood-up for your right to use cannabis as your sacrament, and told your story to us. Mahalo.

Incident number 46 is Rev. Meghan's misdemeanor conviction in New York State in a trial with only a Judge; no jury. Her case is on appeal and will likely be overturned in her favor. Meghan (22 years old!) acted as her own lawyer and was able to have her first Judge removed from the case due to his vocal prejudice against her. She stood strong and respectful and continues to do so as she opens her new ministry. We love you, Meghan.

Rev. Stephen's three successes here in Hawai'i are number 47, 48 and 49.

Hawai'i law says that cultivating from 1 to 24 cannabis plants is a misdemeanor, the smallest type of crime. I recommend that all THC Ministry members in Hawai'i grow as many as 24 plants because that's the easiest case for us to win as defined by law. Check at www.norml.org for your State's laws on cannabis.

Win number 47. Stephen told me that he was growing 24 'Christmas trees' in his backyard in the open sunshine when he was visited over one month ago by a 'marijuana eradication' helicopter. The chopper flew-in close to the ground and circled him. Being a man of faith and courage, Stephen pulled his THC Ministry id card from his wallet and held it up in his outstretched hand, proudly pointing to his female plants in the yard with his other hand. The helicopter circled one more time and then left. It's been peaceful in his garden ever since.

Win number 48. Rev. Stephen was visited by the police on a domestic dispute with his ex-wife. She called the cops. When they showed-up the police noticed the Sanctuary sign on the front porch and the tagged plants clearly in view. Not a word was mentioned about the cannabis plants growing in the yard. Stephen is sure the sign and the tags made the difference between arrest and freedom. He received respect from the cops for his ministry cultivation of cannabis.

Win number 49. Rev. Stephen had to attend Family Court in a dispute over his children. His ex-wife tried to obtain legal custody of their children by claiming that Stephen grew and used 'marijuana' in the presence of their children. Stephen told the court and Judge Chillingsworth that he is a THC Ministry member and ordained minister and that he has every legal right to practice his religion with cannabis sacrament. The Judge agreed with him and then ex-wife's motion was denied. Stephen is a very happy guy these days and brought me a flower tithe today.

Do you have a THC Ministry id card, Sanctuary sign and plant-tags? We have free membership and legal defense kits for everyone. They have proven their value...three times again. We have a glorious cannabis future! Aloha.

All the very best to you,






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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: - Success testimony number 43 -

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Hello Friends,

Aloha. I'm very happy to announce the 43rd success of our Cannabis Sanctuary Legal Defense Kit! Here's the note that I received in the mail today:

"All of my adult life I have used the sacred cannabis plant for religious and spiritual purposes. This summer my plants were spotted by an overhead government helicopter and then ripped from the ground in my backyard while I was away. I came home to find only a note from the Sheriff asking me to contact his office to discuss the matter.

I feared for my freedom, but then I remembered that I had joined the THC Ministry a year earlier. I called Roger who channeled me in faith and confidence straight from the Higher Power. I let the authorities know that I'm a member of the religious order, sent them copies of my THC Ministry paperwork, and I have been left alone.

Now I always remember to carry my THC Ministry id card, use my plant-tags, and hang my Sanctuary sign on the wall. Thanks Roger!"

E.J. California





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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Our 42nd success story has been received!

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Hello out there,

Aloha. I had a visit from my friend, Rev. Mike Mendoza yesterday here at my home in Hilo. Among other matters, he mentioned that his THC Ministry paperwork helped him, and a party of about six friends, from getting arrested recently! He's our 42nd success story.

Mike's testimony was that he was enjoying sacrament at a friend's home with a few other men last month. Their communion went long and became a party with alcohol added and loud conversation until after 10 p.m., the traditional time here in Hawai'i when it's time to make it quiet for the neighbors benefit.

A loud and surprising knock on the door interrupted the get- together. The host of the gathering kept 6 policemen outside by arguing with them about their wanting to enter the premises. Rev. Mike went into action as a cannabis minister. He told them about the THC Ministry, his ordainment and his license from the State Department of Health.

Rev. Mike is a well-spoken and sincere man who has been through another arrest over cannabis where he won by challenging the prosecution with his religious 'defense to prosecution'. Charges were dropped on him in the former case which he reminded the police of.

Apparently the police were convinced that they would be facing Rev. Mike and his religious defense again so they decided to back-off and leave with a promise that the gathering would wind-down for the night. All sacrament and pipes remained with the participants. Case closed. Brilliant!

This is another situation where our THC Ministry paperwork, good manners and respect for all involved wins a confrontation at the 'point of arrest'. The very best place to 'win'.

Is your THC Ministry paperwork in place? Is our id card in your wallet along with your wallet id from the Universal Life Church as a minister? Is there a sacrament 'tag' in with your 'stash'? Are your plants identified with our all-weather plant tags? Is there a Sanctuary sign on the wall near the inside of your front door? Is there another one in your greenhouse?

If so, sleep well tonight and every night. The THC Ministry is working 24/7 for you. Aloha.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:59 pm    Post subject: We "saved a young man from a felony".

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Aloha. I'm also including this (former) 'open case' here in the 'testimonials' because, as his lawyer said, we "saved a young man from a felony".

Some THC Ministry 'open cases' go on and we don't ever hear of the results because the defendant doesn't communicate with us. Yesterday I wrote to the lawyer in this Kentucky case to see what happened. Here is her answer.

Is this a success for our ministry? You decide.

love, Roger

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:51:07 -0600
To: Roger Christie <pakaloha@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Status of case, please

Hello Roger,

It's good to hear from you.

'John Doe' couldn't make it back to Kentucky from his home state of Florida and the court denied my 'motion to dismiss' based on 'religious grounds'.

However, they did allow me to enter a plea of 'guilty' without my client's appearance in court. He got no jail time and a small fine and court costs all paid out of his bond.

He really did not want to plead guilty, but a fugitive from justice warrant would have been issued on a FELONY if we hadn't entered a plea in abstentia (without the defendant's presence), plus he wasn't able to pay for an appeal of the court's denial of our 'motion to dismiss'.

Everybody here liked the motion, even the prosecutor. Got them thinking.

After all was said and done, nothing bad happened to my client and that was very important to me. He was a very peaceful and polite fellow.

However, he had a prior 'possession of cannabis' charge on his record from
another state and the prosecutor wanted to upgrade his charges to a
felony because ... GET THIS! ... in the state of Kentucky a second offense for possession of cannabis is a FELONY - regardless of what jurisdiction or
state the earlier possession conviction was in.

After the prosecutor responded to our 'motion to dismiss', however, he decided not to upgrade the charges to a felony against John Doe.

So, thanks very much for all the info. It saved this young man from a felony which is something he definitely did not need for having a little bit of cannabis on him.

A Woman Lawyer
In Kentucky






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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: A super (partial) victory! 11.19.04

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Hello out there to Ferre and friends,

Aloha. I've got some fine news to share with you. A brand new member of ours just won the right to use cannabis sacrament while on probation here in Hawai'i. * As long as the State of Georgia also approves, he's in. Amazing! This is a very significant (partial) precedent.

Here's the story as I know it. A young Asian man from Georgia got into trouble and even became a gang member where he got into more trouble while living in Georgia. He got caught, arrested, prosecuted and convicted of a gang crime and he spent some time in jail there. Recently he was released on probation and moved with his Mother to Maui to start over and fly right. His probation was transfered to Maui and it goes for another three years.

Last week the young guy called me and asked to join the THC Ministry, he had heard of it from friends on Maui. I was, and am, interested in him and his situation. He sounds like the world has taught him a lesson and he really wants to do the right thing now. He told me that smoking herb was really helpful for his peace of mind and his general well-being, and it helps to keep him mellow. Fine.

I showed him how to become ordained and I sent him links to important documents to print-out for his case worker. I instructed him as to what to say on his next visit to the probation office. It worked! His case worker told him the documents were impressive to her and she would get an advisory opinion from her supervisor.

A few days ago I received a call from the young man and he told me that the probation office had APPROVED his request for a 'religious exemption' to use cannabis during his probation - as long as he can also get approval from the State of Georgia. So far - so good. We have a very significant - partial - success here. Hallelujah! :-}

All the very best to you,






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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Another significant victory today 11.19.04

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:47 pm    Post subject: Another success today! 11.19.04
Hello friends and visitors,

Aloha. I've just heard the news of another significant victory for our ministry today. Hallelujah! I love this stuff.

To start, let me say that I don't recommend cannabis for those who are under 21 years old. I don't have kids of my own, yet. I don't have hands-on parenting skills and experience. Young people and cannabis have been, and continue to be a very volitile social and political issue. It's a highly 'charged' subject that requires extra care when dealing with. (And yes, if I was a teenager now I sure would be trying cannabis for myself, hopefully with a loving initiation process, and no matter what forbidden-fruit or demon plant the D.A.R.E. program told me 'marijuana' was.)

A neighbor of mine is new to town. He and his 16 year-old son moved to Hilo about six months ago. The Dad joined our ministry about four months ago, and soon thereafter he recommended that his son join - with conscious parental approval. I got them both ordained and membership documents.

The boy and the Dad both enjoy cannabis - separately and together. It's a bonding-thing for them to share.

About three months ago the son was caught by the police one night drinking a beer in a county park with a half-dozen other young people. It's illegal to use alcohol in county parks, and the boy is 'underage', on top of that. He was remanded to Family Court for the 'offense' because he's a 'minor'.

At Family Court the boy and his Dad were given the choice for the boy to go through the "Teen Court" system with its lesser penalties, which they chose to do. Apparently one of the conditions for admission to Teen Court is that a person MUST plead 'guilty' to whatever charges brought them there. (Another subject for another time.)

Both father and son decided to try and navigate the system on their own, without THC Ministry assistance. I gave them my blessing and said to call me if they need me.

Another of the conditions of Teen Court is to be 'drug-tested'. The boy 'failed' his urine 'test' because he tested 'positive' for sacrament, and was directed immediately into the 'drug treatment' system. (He tried a de-tox tea before the test and it failed to protect him.)

Dad then called me for help. He doesn't want his precious boy to be twisted by the program of demonizing cannabis, etc., and he asked for my advice.

I provided the family with some important documents to take into the drug counselor on their next official visit. State Constitution, R.F.R.A., the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Person's Act of 2000, ordainment papers, etc.

It worked!!!

Similar to the Probation Department on Maui last week, the drug treatment people here accepted the paperwork very carefully, and the Dad's verbal notice that he request a 'religious exemption' for his boy to continue smoking cannabis - in private - at home - with parental approval.

The drug counselor was stunned at their request, but said he would get back to them in a few days. Well, the word came back and the boy is APPROVED to use cannabis sacrament while going through his Teen Court process!

Is this amazing, or what? This is another great example of EXERCISING RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS. Just like muscles, they get STRONGER!

Two victories of significant progress in one beautiful day! Pass it on.

All the very best to you,




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Success case number 41

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Dear Friends,

Aloha. I heard from a THC Ministry member today about his success with our method and I want to put some of it on the record here.

While on probation for a cannabis case from a few years ago in Hawai'i, the practitioner was caught - again - with approximately 1/8 th ounce of sacrament. It was then that he contacted me, joined us and purchased a Cannabis Sanctuary Kit.

Because he is a sincere religious man who was facing the revocation of his probation and mandatory jail time, I suggested the powerful prayer of "God, that's great! Please show me the blessing in this." (the basics)

Some counseling with me gave him new confidence to confront the prosecutor directly over the telephone himself, against the wishes of his expensive attorney. One call to the prosecutor explaining his situation and the prosecutor agreed to forgive the latest charge and let him free. The practitioner was able to continue on with his original probation and successfully complete it three weeks ago resulting in his total freedom!

We met in person soon after that and have developed a terrific new friendship. The guy provided me with a beachhouse rental in Oahu for myself and a few friends, and threw me a great party to remember with about 35 of his friends. We rocked the house! On a visit to the Big Island today we met again and I got this story for the first time.

I hope and trust that you enjoy your membership in the THC Ministry. We are changing lives for the better each and every day.




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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:59 am    Post subject: A small success in Texas = a big win for us!

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As Roger has some difficulties logging on the site with his pc he askes me to post messages for him sometimes...this is from an email I just received :

Roger Christie wrote:

Hello THC Ministry,

Aloha. Enclosed is the latest news (Feb. 8, 2004) of another 'win' under
arrest conditions for all of us. Zero lawyer needed. Zero bail needed.

The herb got tossed away, but the practitioner went free. Notice that Rev.
Don says that the cops learned of his many previous arrests, yet they still
let him GO FREE! with just a THC Ministry 'plant-tag'. In Texas! Ya-hoo!!!

Was his Cannabis Sanctuary Kit worth the money? He didn't even need to call
me, or anyone to stop a sure arrest.

Remember: your religious freedom 'defense to prosecution' is good for the
rest of your life. It's always working for you 24/7 - forever. Year
after year after year. What's that good feeling worth to you?

Sleep well. You deserve it. Enjoy more 'peace of mind'. Say good-bye to
fear and shame and worry over herb. Start feeling really good about
yourself and your herb enjoyment. You are safe and loved. All is well.

Please post this on our forum, Ferre. I believe we could use a special
category for 'TESTIMONIALS'. They really work best to build confidence and
credibility in our ministry. Mahalo.

:-}~ Roger ~{-:

Donald Franklin Gray wrote:

From: "Donald Franklin Gray" <weezle63@lycos.com>
THC Ministry / Texas

To: "Roger Christie" <pakaloha@gte.net>

Aloha Roger,

Its good to hear from you. I have been very busy lately I have been meaning
to update you. My case got postponed, I still haven't had my pretrial
hearing rescheduled yet.

I just got pulled over in Robinson (Waco suburb). My record came back
"multiple injuries for dangerous drugs" - I had the same thing - a dugout
with about a gram of sacrament. I showed them the tag - they still made me
throw it into the field, but did let me go.

Out little Texas ministry is still in its huble beginings, I do have quite a
congregation starting to come together here in Waco. We look forward to
leaning on The Hawai'i Cannabis Ministry as our supportive foundation for
some time to come.


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New member testimonial: 03-04

From: Rev. Ben Subject: Thank you, my brother! I just received the package you sent and am truly thankful.

All I can say is that where before I felt confident,
I now feel prepared.

Where before I felt secure, I now feel protected.
Where I once had a notion, I now have a belief.
After communicating with you it has become perfectly clear
that we are bound by the same cause.
We WILL see cannabis freed, and if a little additional
funding will aid your reach and influence,
then what is mine is yours.

I am now pledging $10 a month to the cause.
I know its not much, but I also know you will use it wisely.

Besides, money is no object when the health of
our people and our planet is what's up for bid.

On a lighter, but of course related note,
check out the end of Exodus.

Exodus 40:34-38 speaks of the "code" we've discussed before.
Please read it a couple of times.
It seems to be a VERY revealing scripture!

God speed my brother.

New member testimonial: 03-04

Roger, Aloha.

I got the sanctuary kit and it is amazing.
I want to express my thanks for everything,
especially the extras.

I love the shirt, and the holy oil with which
I was able to anoint myself as well as two other members
earlier last week.

I sent-out my application for my minister’s license
to marry people.

As soon as I receive it, things will be very good.
I've also read through all the 3-ring binder;
excellent article about you, and the sanctuary signs
are well done.

Thanks for everything.

Peace to you,


New member testimonial: 03-04, posted 03-20-04

I had gotten a vial of Holy Anointing Oil from
Roger and had it sitting on my desk. I kept thinking
of using it but was trying to save it, since
I was supposed to photograph the bottle for the
THC Ministry - Hawaii website.

One day I was sitting at the computer and I was
annoyed by a sore spot on top of my foot that
had been caused by rubber slippers rubbing on it
that hadn't been healing properly at all
and also some itching due to the high humidity
conditions here. It struck me that Jesus and healers
and priests described in the Bible had anointed
the sick and dying and that they healed...

I decided to try it myself!

I put only two small drops of the holy anointing oil
in the area where it was itching and only two two small drops
of the holy anointing oil in the area where the rubbed area
was not healing properly. I rubbed the oil in slightly
for just a few seconds.

Almost instantly, I felt complete relief from the itching
in both places, my toes "got high" and felt great
(better than they have in years; like I was a young child
wading in a clear warm pond filled with flowers)
and the area that wouldn't heal starting healing immediately!
I knew it was a Godsend right away!

I felt some great relief and praised God for knowing all
and providing the miraculous recipe and the oil itself
through His humble servants.. :)

The area that was having trouble healing fixed itself up
at twice the rate that would have been possible without
the oil or by using any other topical medication I've
ever used. .. Plus it smelled great. I felt like Jesus
with anointed feet after a long journey in the desert.

It was great! I can see that the holy anointing oil
might well be used to heal "all manner of sickness and
disease amongst the people", today, just as it was in
Jesus' and Moses' day.

HalleluJah! :)


Hilo, Hawaiian Islands

New member testimonial: 03-04

Dear Roger; Shortly after receiving the holy anointing oil
I took two new members out to a somewhat secluded waterfall.
It was a slightly chilly day but I wasn't about to let that stop us.
Just to make sure, I anointed each of us with 5 drops of holy oil,
followed by a few moments of silence.

It was a very complacent experience, very religious, different.
I wasn't even sure what to expect, it was like ‘vaporization’,
mentally stimulating and contemplative.

We spent about an hour admiring our surroundings while
conversing on a wide range of topics.

Later after they needed to leave I spent a good time meditating.
It was terrific - I was able to focus easier.

It was an experience.


New member testimonial: 10-03 (posted 3-11-04)

One day around about October of 2003 I was at my girlfriend's apartment in Hilo, Hawai'i and was smoking some cannabis sacrament outside on the balcony because she has asthma and the smoke bothers her.

As far as I knew I was doing this in private.

I finished smoking and went back into the apartment and locked the screen door behind me, leaving the door open.

I set my bong and sacrament bag on the table (in clear full view through the screen door; I really didn't think about it much because I know the right of privacy in the home exists in Hawai'i):

Hawaii State Constitution, Sections 6 and 7 on


among 'Federal' and other protections existing for privacy of "persons"..., not to mention

FREEDOM OF RELIGION... , Hawaii State Constitution, Section 4.

I got involved in a phone call with a friend and then at the same time got involved with doing some other things in another room in her apartment, mostly forgetting about my friend on the phone.

All of a sudden a knock came on the door; it was two policemen who were at the door. I came over to the screen door asking what the trouble was (figuring they wanted to ask if I'd witnessed God-knows-what that might have gone on in the building), but they seemed to want to talk with me specifically.

They asked me "were you just outside?"
I said yes.
They asked me "were you smoking marijuana?"
I said that I was smoking herb (I don't use the word "marijuana" because it was borrowed from the traditional Mexican song "La Cucaracha" [1895] and then used by Harry J. Anslinger and the U.S. Bureau of Narcotics and popularised by the Hearst-owned news media in the 1930s for use as a 'scare' term meaning "Mary Jane" {as in 'woman', meaning aphrodisiac} in Spanish, so as to scare people into believing that using cannabis would fire people up sexually so much that they could not control themselves and rape people to have sex), but that I use it religiously and am a member of The Hawai'i Cannabis ((THC)) ministry.

Then they said to me "OK, then show us your card"! ... I was a little taken aback but not really surprised because I knew that I am in the right and that God really does protect people in doing right. I did not open the door ("A man's home is his castle" ~Maxim of Law) because I knew that opening the door to them can be interpreted as an invitation to come inside and that anyone, including police, otherwise would need a search warrant to search, but I did show them the card through the screen.
I guess they couldn't see it well enough and/or wanted to look around inside without a search warrant to potentially gather evidence of whatever they might want to allege, so they asked me to open the door.

I politely told them that I don't open the door to strangers but I would pass my card to them through the space around the screen door. They looked at it, noted the contents mentally and handed it back to me.

Then they told me, "Uhh, you know that that only applies in private".
I said that yes, I am aware of that and that I thought I was in private, and in fact was using the herb on "private property". They said "yes, but you've been disturbing other people in the building with the smoke".

I told them that I wasn't aware of bothering anyone with the smoke because no-one told me so, and that the only reason I was even out on the balcony smoking it was because it bothered my girlfriend because of her asthma.

Then they asked me "is that your marijuana and pipe there on the table?" (again using the word "marijuana"; I suppose they were hoping I would use the same word and incriminate myself)..

I corrected them by saying "that is my sacrament bag and pipe on the table" and repeated that I am on private property.
Then I told them that from then on I would smoke it only inside the apartment when I was there, so that I wouldn't bother anyone with it.

At that point I said "Aloha" and they said "Well we need to get some information from you.. we need your name at least so we can make a report (they have to make contact reports as a standard part of their jobs), so I told them 'my first name', then they asked for 'my last name'. (I told them "my family name is _____" rather than "my last name is..." because I have no unique possession of the family name; I share that family name with my whole family.)

They said thank you, I said thank you, and
Aloha ... and they left peaceably, with me, my sacrament bag and pipe, and my girlfriend, intact, happy, and actually better for the experience.

I had one eye/ear-witness of this (my girlfriend) and also, as God would have it, another ear-witness: my friend Daniel also just happened to be still waiting on the phone for me to get back, and after this all happened he told me that he'd heard the whole thing.

This all shows me that:

1. The Hawai'i Cannabis (THC) Ministry ID cards are recognised by the Hawaii Police Department ('HPD') as legal proof of bona fide membership in the cannabis sacrament ministry, as also evidenced by their Hawaii Police Department "ARREST POLICY" which is both required by law and followed by HPD police) and which guarantees Constitutional and other protections with regard to arresting "persons within the State" of Hawaii [Hawai'i] [if verified by the cannabis sacrament practitioner by using ID which shows their bona fide membership in The Hawai'i Cannabis (THC) Ministry], (and without the hassle and potential loss associated with trying to prove one's sincerity of belief and religious use of cannabis sacrament 'after' the fact of arrest).

2. Cannabis pracitioners who are "persons within the State" of Hawaii [Hawai'i](as the Hawaii Revised Statutes ['HRS'] 'law' calls it; reference HRS section 1-1 {right from the start of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, so it must be important!} regarding common law, Hawaiian judicial precedent and Hawaiian usage being the law of the "State",
HRS 1-19, regarding basic word definitions used in ALL statute 'law' regarding "persons").

Now I feel a lot safer knowing that I can identify myself properly as a bona fide religious practitioner of cannabis sacrament using my THC Ministry ID card. After this incident, (even though I was already registered with the Ministry), I made a donation to the THC Ministry and requested and received my THC Ministry Sanctuary Kit. I signed the declaration on the back affirming that I am in fact a bona fide member of The Hawai'i Cananbis (THC) Ministry, and then placed the Sanctuary Sign on my wall in clear view of the front door to give notice to everyone, including the police and then took photographs of it on the wall, for backup evidence just in case something ever happened to the sign. It looks great on the wall and really says what I have known to be true since I first used cannabis this life back in 1980: that it is in fact the holy sacrament commanded by God to be used "for the healing of the nations" (Book of Revelation, chapter 22, verse 2).

Praise Jah! (God!) for all these blessings, and thanks to the work of good ministers like Roger Christie for doing the good work of bringing these truths to the people!

Pak-Aloha! , ....

Hilo, Hawai'i, Hawaiian Islands.

New member Testimonial: 04-02-03
Hi Roger,
I got my THC Ministries kit today.  I am really impressed, it looks like you did your homework on this one.

New member testimonial: 04-01-03 
Hey the kit arrived about a week ago.
I was totally satisfied.
This humble Humboldt resident gives you his blessings!
keep up the good work & mahalo!

NEW Testimony: 12/28/2002
Rev. Fred Booker of Hilo Hawaii was ordained for only two months time when he was stopped at a traffic road block in Hilo during the 1st week of December 2002.  The Policeman spotted an open baggie of Cannabis on the passenger's seat at which time he asked Rev. Fred to exit the car to be searched.  Upon searching through freds wallet the officer found Fred's THC-Ministry I.D. Card .  Fred acknowledged that he was a member of The Hawaii Cannabis Ministry.  The officer then said, "I don't want to deal with this, it's too much paperwork.  Just go...."  The Officer then returned the baggie of sacrament.  Reverend Fred and the three witnesses in the car drove away.  Five minutes later they all reported that they were enjoying the sacrament and their good fortune.


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UPDATE: 11/01/02
Arizona Man - Rev. Jose Saliva just had his criminal charge dropped for possesion of nearly 1 pound of Cannabis buds with intent to distribute.  Rev. Saliva's case is the THC-Ministry's one and only prosecution heard in the court of law and has now ended in VICTORY!

We have had a total of ZERO negative experiences with those who have used our kit.  Please tell us your testimony.  We will post your experiences, good or bad, right here on the Testimonials page.  If you have been a member and have been prosecuted for possession or cultivation of cannabis, please contact us immediately.  As far as we know we have a perfect track record and we want to keep it that way, for your benefit and ours.

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